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L&L Chit Chat: Smart Money Moves & The Evolution of Business & Friendships

• Lisa Huff

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Welcome back to another L&L Chit Chat! In this episode, Leisha and I dive into two of the biggest themes that have been coming up in our mastermind conversations—money and evolution. From high-yield savings accounts and retirement planning to navigating shifts in professional and personal relationships, we’re sharing real, unfiltered thoughts on what it means to grow, evolve, and set yourself up for long-term success.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

✨ The power of high-yield savings accounts and why they’re a no-brainer for stylists
✨ How automating your retirement contributions can change your financial future
✨ The importance of defining your personal "zero" when it comes to money
✨ Avoiding business debt—how to use Square Savings instead of high-interest loans
✨ Why retirement planning isn’t just about you—it’s about taking care of your future self
✨ The reality of professional and personal evolution—when relationships shift and how to handle it with love
✨ A behind-the-scenes look at Leisha’s decision to transition out of her role as my assistant to go all-in on The Traveling Hairstylist
✨ Lessons on honest communication, letting go, and trusting the seasons of life & business

🎧 Tune in for a raw, real conversation about financial empowerment, business growth, and what it means to embrace change with confidence.

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Hello friends, welcome back to Stylist Soul Tribe Conversations. We're doing another L& L chit chat. I just looked, Blesha, while you were, we took five minutes to get our shit together before we started recording. This is our fifth L& L chit chat, which makes sense because the podcast is just over a year old. So, we try to do them every quarter. So, We were just chatting, we had our L& L meeting before we started recording, and we were just chatting about what we want to talk about in this podcast, and we have a few different things kind of all over the board, but I started this series called Mastermind Mondays on Instagram, where after a day full of mastermind calls, I kind of just take the biggest highlights and key takeaways from the series. some days I talk to 20 stylists, some days I talk to 50 stylists, it depends on what we have on the calendar, but it's a really unique and interesting position to get to talk to that many people in one day and just kind of get a pulse on like where a large group of people are at right now. And so Leisha brought that up and something that has came up on a lot of Mastermind Mondays and it's probably because of the time of year. I don't know. We'll see. I haven't been doing this series for that long. We'll see if this continues on. but a lot of things that have been coming up is the conversation about money. day two of the Vision Casting Workshop took such a turn and literally just turned into a conversation about finances, retirement, saving for retirement, taxes. Alicia was like, maybe we should touch on that because I know you finally made a move and started investing into retirement I know I have been saying that until i'm blue in the face for years now so give your take on it and then we'll just kind of go from there after the vision casting workshop that really sparked a lot of great ideas that people were Suggesting. I've actually done a couple of them already. Something that I, I don't know why I've always done this. I think it's just like ingrained in my brain. Just growing up with a family who didn't necessarily have a lot of money I grew up definitely that mentality of like, I'm never going to be like this. Like my parents had so much debt and like, I mean, not to throw them under the bus here, but, and you know, they did, bankruptcy and just went through all those things. And so I always really grew up wanting to avoid all of that. And so I think for a while, I sort of just like hoarded money into my, like, just traditional savings account, not even. Anything and so that was one thing that was talked about a lot actually about high yield savings account And there was a couple that were brought up one was ally one was why nab I think and I'm, just like why have I not made this move yet? Like why have why am I? That's the thing too because people don't talk about money. I mean we talk about it a little bit But like, when I hear you say that, I'm like, we did that a long time ago. So it's like, you don't even think to mention it to people because you don't know what people are doing with their money. And so YNAB is, you need a budget. That's what that stands for. So Annette is actually teaching a masterclass inside of Soul Tribe about that in April, I believe. but we talked about Ally Bank that has a pretty high. Interest rate and then I use Apple. so when the Apple card got dropped, it's like Goldman Sachs Apple collaboration. So it's all inside of like my Apple wallet. they when they first released it, it was COVID time and it was 4. 5 percent APY. And now it's dropped a little bit from there. But Ryan and I moved our entire like, I'll call it our emergency fund money that we put in that we literally never touched and never taken out. And when we had it, That money in a region savings account, we even moved it to a money market account because money market account because we heard that that was better. It literally gained, over seven years, like 35 cents, like nothing, like again, nothing. The last year that we had our cash in Apple, we made, a little over a thousand dollars, just in interest. And it got to the point where I was getting the notification at the end of the month, like, you earned 39 in interest this month. That's cool! But then I think that is what was really nice is people really talked more in depth about how they did it, how it benefited them, and I think that was kind of the push I needed to be like, okay, yeah, like stop chilling on this, like you're silly for not taking advantage of something like this. So I did, I moved literally like 80 percent of our savings into an Ally account. in the beginning of the year, and I felt really good to do that, and I was like talking with my husband, he was like, yeah, why are we not doing that? Like, it was like the same for both of us. Like, it was like we knew it was a thing, We still weren't taking action on it. Nobody ever thought to do it. And let me just clarify for somebody who doesn't know what we're talking about. We're talking about a high yield savings account. So when you move money into a high yield savings account, that is still considered a Liquid cash. You can pull it out at any time. Maybe it takes two days to process the transfer, but that is what people in the money world would call like liquid cash. So you can put things in like CDs at the bank. let's say you have 10, 000 in savings and you know you're not going to touch it. Like, let's say you have 20, 000 in savings. And you know, even if an emergency presents itself, you shouldn't have to tap into more than 10. you could Put 10, 000 in the CD at the bank, and that's like a six month period. You agree to the terms, but that will grow at like, say, 6 percent or 7%. And it's really interesting because that's not liquid. Once you put that in, you can't touch it for six months. So that's another like layer of what people do with their savings. I remember Jen Santos, I think she's cool with me sharing this, put a ton of money into a CD because they had built out the salon. Like they were like, we're done spending money for a little bit. We're not going to touch our savings for a while. And then she had like her pool break right after she put money in. Stressful. Yeah. so I do just want to clarify. Sometimes I think when people hear high yield, they think like they can't touch it. Or you think of like, An IRA is a different thing and that like there's penalties to touch that for a long, long time. So there's these different like layers of where to have money live based on how soon you're going to have to touch it. And every different financial person has different stipulations of how much they think you should keep and all of those. But I just want to clarify for somebody's like, that's like, what are you talking about? A high yield savings account really is kind of a no brainer because it is truly still liquid meaning you can tap into it at any time. You can use it whenever you need to. Smart but safe. Yes. Like an easy, safe move to make. Yes. And it doesn't have quite as high of an interest rate as some other investments, but, Why would you have that sitting in a checking or a savings account, especially because I know, we bank with Regions, and I think Regions, it was like 001 percent APY in our money market account, where this one is now like 4%, So, it makes sense. Signed up with Ali. It's right now. They're doing like 3. 8 or something And yeah, I had a chase savings where everything sat and it is it's literally like zero zero zero like it's like, okay This is literally doing nothing. huh nothing for us. so yeah, that was one move. that I feel like a lot of people were really talking about And I know you kind of mentioned the retirement. But yeah another thing that I Was doing and I feel like a lot of people were talking about as well as I do have a Roth IRA that I set up I think maybe four years ago now, which was like a really big move then But I just set it up and then literally I maybe like two or three times a year would be like All right. Well, let me just transfer some money over. I was kind of like thinking about this. I'm like, I really should just have this work for me. And rather than me trying to like, just remember to think about sending money. And I was like, I need to just set up automatic transfers. Like, why are we not doing that? You know, and just have it. And even if it's just little bits broken down, cause I would wait so long, it was like, okay, I guess I need to try to get like a thousand over there now to try to catch up. But, so that was another like really minute move that I made, but. Very impactful. Feels really good and really right. And think of if you would have set that up originally four years ago. I know. Like, I don't know how much you're putting in, but let's say you're putting 50 in. Like, even if it's a little amount, if you would have done that over four years, that would have made a major impact, probably more than you added in. And I think that's what a lot of people get stuck on is they think, oh, when there's extra money left over, I will add to it. There's never extra money left over because you start behaving different. I know I am dying to get a new couch. I'm waiting for some extra money to be left over to pull and buy a couch. Cause like once you see, we had another conversation, I think I've talked about this here on the podcast, but I'll say it again because it really resonated with a lot of people during that vision casting workshop. I got advice many years ago, thank God, from, my stepmother in law, and I was, her and I were having kind of like a heart to heart, none of the guys were around, she was staying with me, the kids were young, and I said something about just like, I was just kind of venting about mine and my husband's relationship at the time, we were young, the kids were young, and I said something about like, Oh, it just pisses me off so bad. Ryan always says, we're broke. We're broke. We're broke. We can't do that. We're broke. No, we're not doing that. We're broke. We're broke. And I'm like, dude, I have more money than I ever thought I'd be having sitting in a bank account. Like, what the hell do you mean we're broke? And then I'm also like getting ramped up on law of attraction at that time. And I'm like, stop affirming we're broke. That's like so toxic to say. and I was telling her this and she was like, Well, you guys need to figure out what zero means, because it's sounding to me like zero to you means something very, very different than zero to Ryan. And she's like, no, zero to Ryan is whatever cushion makes him feel comfortable based on your bills, and a lot of people that resonated with that as well, too. Yeah, and it's kind of even just same as, like, profit first method of just, like, choosing where the money goes, because newsflash, it'll never be there at the end. Like, even if you're saying, okay, let me take all the expenses, whatever's left over is profit, it just truly doesn't happen. Instead, take that profit or take whatever that is off the top, assign it a role, assign it a name, and then let the littler things, like a few extra bottles of toner, the little things, when that number in the bank account starts to get tighter, you just don't behave the same way. When retirement's already coming out, profit's already coming out, this is already coming out, you behave different on that kind of disposable income. those are some of the things I've learned. So, I know this came up when you asked. When you were talking about that, and I know I've heard this, but I know a lot of people followed up with asking, like, but how did you, like, what step did you guys take to find that zero? Like, where do you even start with that? For us, I just kind of had to get on board with what Ryan's zero was, and it just changed, I think it made me stop getting mad at him from saying we're broke, and I just realized at the time, if we have less than 5, 000 in our checking account, which again, everybody's different, not everybody moves their money that same way. To Ryan, we're negative. Like, his brain, he needed that 5, 000 cushion, because that means if anything comes out, if any, all of our bills are on auto payment, if anything hits, we would never overdraft. I just accepted, okay, 5, 000 is zero. I chilled out until we hit that. And then ours, for a while, back in our old house, the buffer was like 5, 000 to 7, 000. And then once we hit 7, 000, we We could not stop going out to eat. We were just behaving like idiots because we've got money, you know, and so I think there's something really powerful to assigning your money where it's supposed to go, even if that means it goes to a savings account that you then don't look at, because when our checking account would hit a certain amount, We'd go out to eat four nights in a row at like fancy restaurants, order drinks, desserts, appetizers. That's so fucking stupid, to behave that way and spend your money that way. So that's what works, has worked for us over the years. And do you guys like have, do you check in often with that? Is this something you're doing like once a year, like a couple times a year? Do you kind of check back in and be like, is there, has our You know, zero change. Yeah. Well, I think the way we behave is we move so frequently that it has to change. Like, we make such big lifestyle changes that our zero had to go up because our bills are a lot higher now because we've upgraded our lifestyle. So yeah, I think when we moved and we were Discussing what our new mortgage is going to be, and if we were to ever agree to a car payment, we would then talk about what is zero. And it's almost like that amount of monthly payment gets tagged, like tapped onto your number already. So like for us, it's basically. If all of our monthly bills were to come out at one time and we forgot about them, we wouldn't overdraft to us. That's kind of zero. Then we also decided how much to automatically move to savings. and then as that savings grows, we decide what to do with that savings. That's become kind of like a hack because Ryan was not on board with that. And that's worked really, really well. Same thought is like, Moving into retirement. We have a setup where 250 a week goes from checking to savings and Ryan's like, there's no way we have an extra thousand of spending money. Like I'm like, okay, well, if we don't and we start to drop too low in our checking, then we just pull and we adjust that we haven't had to yet. and, but again, we behave different when it's not in our checking account. We don't go out to eat as much. We don't do the same things that we used to be doing. So money is so Interesting to everybody. It's so different. I even love, I'm just a weirdo. I love like talking about it. I love picking people's brains. I love the psychology behind it. I'll talk with my clients behind the chair about it. And like, they don't even have joint checking accounts. So obviously it's so personal for everyone, but that's just what has worked for me and Ryan over the last 15 freaking years. Yeah. I feel like for me, I almost treat like So this, you know, what I'm sending to my savings or even like these automatic to my array, I almost just treat it as like, this is another like bill now, except this is the bill that like is giving me an immediate like ROI. it's like how I look at like my. car payment. I don't have a choice. Like, the car payment has to be made. It's coming out. Yeah. Yeah, it is almost trying to like, you know, you approach it in the same way, I guess. And like, and if you do, then yeah, it's like, you make it happen. even if it doesn't feel like that can happen at first. So, yeah, I don't know. That's just interesting. I was just curious more about that. Yeah, so that's what has worked for us. I'm not saying that's the right answer. And yet again, Ryan was, I was asking if Ryan would come on for a podcast episode and I asked him yet again. He's like, Lisa, I'm not coming on your podcast. He is so not like a talk in front of people, kind of person. But I've learned a lot from him. Honestly, I have to give him props because I feel like I behave the way I do. Who knows how I would have turned out. Like I said, I've been with him since I've been so young, but Ryan's family. Again, we don't want to, like, throw shade. Humans are humans, whether they have good money, some people are good, some people are not. Like, I'm not saying this makes people good or bad, but when I take an outside look at all the people in my life, especially older people, aunts, uncles, parents, step parents, grandparents, you know, family, friends, we just would look at, like, who do we kind of want to replicate? His parents have, like, gone to college. They're college educated. They just behave different with their money than my parents. They just do. and we just thought, yeah, we'd like to ask more questions and learn from those people and do things that way. and I don't know when it switched for Ryan, because we didn't used to think like this. He used to be a freaking drug addict. We did not used to behave like this. But he read, we both read it around the same time, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. It's right here by Robert Kiyosaki. That's what made him really start thinking about, like, investing. Then he read a book called F. U. Money. I've never read that one, but I know he really enjoyed that at the time. and then for a moment there, he really got into the stock market and he read how to day trade for a living. But, that's not something that he does anymore. He learned for himself, especially having an addictive personality, that day trading is gambling and he wasn't trying to get into that, you know? So it's just curiosities. And again, it's not for everyone. Some people hate it. They don't want to think about it. They don't want to talk about it. I know some people still, like, write checks to pay their bills, but the way my brain works is the, the things need to come out automatically. Savings, retirement, all those things need to be treated almost as if a bill, it's a bill, and then you're left with this, and your behavior affects what's left, and you just behave different when that number is lower. So I'd rather intentionally put it to wise spots than just let that number build up, because I know my behavior starts to get really loosey goosey. I'm gonna book vacations, I'm gonna go out to eat, I'm gonna, Blow through money if given that that's me. Yeah. Yeah. I know another thing that was talked about, another trick too, just to add this in quickly. I know it's kind of like specific if you have Square, but I know a lot of people have been doing the method where they do the savings, square savings. Yeah. Square savings, which is nice because it's almost like it's not even getting to your account. It's actually already coming out. of your service dollars, which is kind of nice because it's almost like this, not hidden, but it's kind of like happening before you even see that money in your account. But you have this, you know, collection of money with the square savings account. And I know someone recently just did it. And within just a couple months, she's like, I already have 1, 000 in there. Like I was not expecting that. And she's like, I'm going to book my vacation with that. And I was like, that's amazing. Like, I love how quickly, but like, it's so out of mind. Like, out of sight, out of mind. And then you're just like, oh, I have a thousand dollars. Like, cool. That was another thing, too. And especially when it comes to Square, because I've also, through the years with Soul Tribe and coaching, heard people that take, like, Vagaro Capital Square loans. I would rather you, and just think about this, put into Square Savings, self fund those things, because I think a lot of people find themselves in the mess, Oh, I got offered this Vigaro Capital, this Square loan, they'll take it out, but then there's usually like a 20 percent interest rate on that, Please, for the love of God, set up the Square Savings first, fund that yourself. buy the new equipment and stuff once you've saved the money rather than taking out a loan with that same thought process. Of, oh, it will just come out of every single service that I do, but you're also paying a 20 percent interest rate on it, which is bonkers. So, that's just another thing to keep in mind. And then one more thing on the money conversation because after we wrapped up with the Vision Casting Workshop I got a few polos from people like you really should do a podcast just about retirement and I do think I get a little bit passionate about this and so I've been thinking about just doing one on my own. Last thing I want to say about it, and if you have thoughts, Alicia, you can chime in, but I'm 32. I'm not the wisest, oldest, like, life has still, I still have a lot of life to live, a lot of lessons to learn, but from right now, with this mind that I have, that I've grown, and the opinions that I've formed, I've become really, really passionate about retirement strictly because I worry so fucking much about my parents. And I'm sorry, dad, if you're listening to this, I know Theresa, my stop mom listens to these. I'm sorry. I don't want to make you feel bad. I worry about it. And I know there was a time when my parents did save and 08 came and divorce came and things came. But like the people who make. Blanket statements of like, oh, I'll never retire. Like, I don't want to throw people under the bus. There's another adult in my life, not one of my parents, but there's another adult in my life who makes incredible money. She always says, I'll never retire. Oh, I'll never retire. Just expect that that won't happen. I'll never retire. Why do people speak that into their lives? I guess now that you're 60, it might feel like you never will. But even 5, 10 years ago, you could have, if you would have thought about it. And then I think there's also a lot of people that will say, Oh, well, I know someone who saved her retirement and then they died and they didn't get to use it. And again, if that's like a close thing to you, who am I? I'm not going to change your mind. I haven't had that exact lived experience, but I just think if you have anybody in your life that you love and care about, whether you have children, whether you have nieces and nephews, whether you have anyone, if you stop and think about when you're fucking 80 years old and you can't go to the bathroom by yourself and your loved ones are worried about where you're going to go, what you're going to do, how you're going to get cared for, put 50 a month into a fucking account because compound interest is so powerful in the earlier you start it, the more bizarre the numbers are. I thought in my head one day when I do a podcast about this, I'll like share a graph of compound interest because you really don't get it until you see it. the best time to start is yesterday. So if you even have one single person in your life that you love and you are not putting away anything for retirement, I think you are giving a big middle finger to every person that loves you. That's my take. Yeah, no, I totally agree. I don't think I have really anything to add to that. It's kind of the same as, like, health, though, too. Like, people look it's like, oh, like, you know, I, I'm not going to be able to do this when I'm this age. Like, it's like, why? If you start right now, or, you know, yesterday, just taking really small, like, that's all it is. small moves like every day you set yourself up whether it's financially mentally health later on whether you know you're 20 30 40 50 60 70 like there's always like and you know what let me interrupt you not even take one move step zero is stop saying it mentally stop affirming over and over and over again my back's gonna be broke i'm not gonna be able to do that i'm not gonna be able to try i'm gonna work till i die Step zero is stop fucking saying that. You are the only person literally casting a spell and choosing for that to be your truth. And I don't think people realize there's so much, like, subconscious programming around things like that. That, like, every time you speak words like that, you are Etching it into stone that that will be your truth. So even if you don't do anything, even if you don't work out today, stop fucking saying that you're gonna Ryan's boss makes a joke all the time. They have a health savings account and he has like so much money in his and Ryan's like, why don't you use that? Why don't you use that? He's like, oh, I'm saving it for my double bypass surgery one day. Stop saying that! Why, why would people do that? I don't know, but I know I'm, with all this stuff, but I think that's step one. You don't even have to take action, but please stop affirming every single day of your fucking life that you're gonna have a miserable future. Yeah, I hardcore agree. Even on like really small levels, my husband sometimes will be like, Oh, I'm too old for this. Like, and it'll be like something slaying. I'm like, no, you're not. Don't say you're too old. We're not too old. And even if we were older, we are capable to do anything we want to do. So it's like, yeah, I love that point. That's a great point. to add to that. Totally agree. All right. Well, I'm glad you brought up the money thing when we were talking about things to talk about, Leisha, because that wasn't my initial intention, but that just because two birds with one stone, I don't have to do a retirement podcast because that's really the gist of everything I think about it. Maybe I could put together graphs and explain things and teach things a little bit in a better way that would land with people and actually cause them to take action. But that's my overall thoughts on all of it. So, anything else major on money that you want to touch on? no. I think we really covered that well. So now we're gonna take a very random, right turn and go in another direction. We want to talk about navigating professional and personal relationships, specifically, like, with the same person. So whether it's a friend that you work with, your salon owner that you've become very close friends with, Alicia, who started as a Stylist Soul Tribe member, then became my assistant, that we'll then continue to have a good, like, personal relationship with. So I guess, Alicia, should we just, like, say what's going on, what you shared with me last week, what the future looks like, and then we'll just kind of go from there. Yeah, I think so. So, I think really what's inspiring this is because I've been, working as Lisa's assistant for almost three years in March. Right. Exactly three years. And when I first started it, we really had no idea what this was going to look like. I really just came to her and Asked about this because I was getting ready to make a transition in my own career at the time I was still behind the chair in my loft then but I was planning to at the end of that year. leave the traveling hairstylist and that has been my career really for the last couple years now and Something that I was like really thinking about and really sitting back on. is that I haven't had the chance to fully go all in a hundred percent focus of traveling hairstyles. I'm really building this to the degree that I want it to be built to and hit these benchmarks. I really want to hit because I've kind of been doing two roles, but really almost three because I work. I'm trying to build Traven Hairstyles, but I also am a Traven Hairstyles, and I do, you know, assisting with Lisa. Yeah, and the thing with it is I truly truly love assisting Lisa. I love that I get to like talk, you know, business and ideas and all the things with her. And I'm so passionate about Soul Tribe and what it's given to me and what it is about and what it's Is still to this day and will continue to be so all that to say Last week I came to Lisa and I was like, I think it's time. I think we both maybe knew it was coming but like I think so time for me to Move on from this role of your assistant and be all in 100 percent with growing the traveling hairstylist so not that I still won't be in soul tribe, but just not as Not moving forward as your assistant anymore, Lisa So that happened on a Zoom call, and we, like, have our, our document that we follow, our meeting agenda, and Leisha put a little note, like, save a little time at the end for us to talk about something. I was like, what do we need to talk about next? and she shared all of that, and I don't even think I realized until after the fact, you tell me if you feel the same way. Leisha, I guess I don't know how long you've been brewing on this, but, like, Once it was said, I was like, this makes so much sense. Like, in my head, I was just like, no, sure, why would I, like, as long as she's down with continuing to help me, I'll take whatever version, whatever variation of your support I can get, but as soon as you, like, laid it all out on the table, like, I was just like, How can I feel any way but, like, incredible about that? Because, one, the traveling hairstylist deserves that. Like, it really does. It is time. I'm just as passionate about, like, seeing what that, will bring to life. And then I told Leisha, I polo'd her the next day. And I'm like, this is gonna sound kind of weird. I don't know how to say this, but I, like, woke up that next morning. I did my morning routine. I came down to my sacred space. I started journaling and I deal with these, like, random bouts of anxiety. I don't really know what they are, but I get them very randomly. I didn't used to be an anxious person. I'm like, I don't know if I need to fucking get treated for that. I don't know what it is, but I deal with these bouts of anxiety and over probably, honestly, the last year, Alicia, I have felt moments. You haven't even said anything. These, like, micro, even facial expressions where I'm like, Hmm, this is not working for her, or this is too much for her, or this isn't in alignment with where my brain's at, or, you know, you'd be really overwhelmed on time, or you'd be overwhelmed on money. I'd be like, oh god, you need to help her. Like, I just, I love you. We've become such close friends over the years that I've had these, like, bouts of anxiety. If I flipped back through my morning pages, like, I could find where they randomly come up. And so I thought that when the day came, and so those of you that don't know, I'm trying to keep this relevant for people who aren't in Soul Tribe and don't know us, but whatever, I'm going to share. I thought when the day came when Lisha had to step away, to give a little context, before Lisha came on, working and helping me behind the scenes, Soul Tribe was so different. It has evolved so incredibly much over the last three years, thanks to you, truly. Thanks to me, too. Thanks to everyone in Soul Tribe. You have came in, shifted the dynamic so incredibly much, been such a good sounding board for my brain, that I thought if and when the day came that you had to like step away that I was gonna be like down bad. Like I was gonna be really struggling, I was gonna have to figure it out, and like I, There was a moment where I'm like, oh god, she probably feels that, she probably knows that, and so I sent her a polo the next morning. I was like, I just want to tell you that I feel weirdly good. it's very much like a what got you here won't get you there kind of thing. we put all of our energy and all of our brainpower into this over the last three years. And we've hit the capacity of what our two brains really can come up with beyond this. And so I just told her, like, I'm really grateful. I feel really good. I feel really okay. she is going to still stay in this role until end of March, early April. So nothing's happening right away, but she is going to transition out of team role and just become a member, of Stylist Soul Tribe. And as we were talking about last week, I was like, Would you want to, like, jump on a podcast and talk about that? And then this last week, and this was what reaffirmed that I thought that we should talk about this, I had a coaching call with somebody in Soul Tribe, I won't say names, but she was leaving her salon, that she has become incredibly close friends with her salon owner, and she was mortified to give her the notice. She was shaking, she was crying, I mean, she was So scared to give this notice. And she was like, Can I do it in email? Can I do it over the phone? Can I do text? And I was like, you know what, just because I just had this experience a few days ago, I just want to share with you and I just kind of poured into her like what this has been and just share that I think the the balance of professional and personal relationships is really interesting with a lot of people. I think it's something a lot of people deal with, but I think it can be done really beautifully. Transcribed In evolutions, people can come and go in and out of these spaces professionally, personally, in your world and in your almost like Kristen's rings, you know, relationship rings. And it can be done in like a really beautiful manner. Yeah. And I think even if you are in a position where you're not super close with your mentor boss, I think even if like you're a stylist in a salon, You know, who feels like you're ready for a change. You need to make that shift. Or you're a salon who has a stylist who, you know, they're planning to make a shift. And I feel like, cause I've been in a position with the salon that I've worked in before that I decided to leave. I did a lot for that salon. I like managed and I was like, they're going to fall apart without me. and it kept me there longer than it needed to. Cause after I left, I'm like, they're going to fall apart. Like they're not going to know what to do with me out me. And I think a lot of times we get in those weird spaces where like a salon owner might be like, if I lose this stylist. What am I going to do? Or the stylist leaves and they're like, Oh my God, like, what's the song going to do? And it's like, we have to take a step back and really look at like, why are those thoughts coming up? Because most of the time it's not the reality of what's happening because things change. They almost have to change to evolve. And There are seasons of things, and if that is your season to go, or it's your season to lose somebody on your team, it doesn't have to be this, like, icky, resentful, like, I did all of this for them, or like, they're gonna fall apart without me, thing. that is a reflection of where maybe you were at at that point. I had to look at myself in that time and be like, Why would I think that that salon needs to be for eternity? Like, if I've met That's an interesting perspective. Yeah, I mean, am I supposed to work there for my entire career so that they don't fall apart? Like, what good does that serve them or me? Yeah. So I just, I just feel like I would add that in because I have had that experience early on in my career where it wasn't quite like this. However, this is very different. Literally one of my best friends. Like, you know, so much about me, you know, so much about my business. You we've gotten so close. We work really well together. And I think when we first started, you know, this, as far as like assisting with you, like we really went into it with. No expectations, but knowing this was going to be just a building block and we're going to just work together to craft what this needed to be. But I think the thing that maybe made it different, and maybe if you were a leader, a salon owner, have a team that this could be something you can take away from it, is something you did for me in the last three years, is you have continually Checked in with me often, but not a leader you came from it from a very genuine place of like love What do you mean? I mean sometimes and it wouldn't even be like I was asking him anything, but sometimes you were just Pull on me and be like, hey, I just want to see like, where are you at? How are you feeling? How are things going like as a friend? How are you feeling? How's the track like you always would ask me? All my things were but genuinely I feel like you were just asking me like from the heart. How am I doing? my you know what's in front of me And what do I need? And it never felt like a, you know, like a one on one monthly meeting. Seriously, yeah. You did it at very intentional times and it allowed me to have a moment to be like, okay, how am I doing? Like, where are we at? Like, how's this feel? and so there wasn't like timed notions. No, it was all off intuition. I never, there was nothing behind it that I was trying to do with that. But I think that that really set the tone for. this business working, you know, personal relationship to be very balanced between both roles. And so that I could know that like, you were coming from a place of love, but we also were still building these businesses to, you know, like, we're still on this trajectory and hitting these goals that we need to hit and. No, I will, I will touch on that, though, because, yeah, there was never anything behind the scenes, but I think this goes back to, again, another quote you guys have heard me say again and again and again, I have primed my brain, again, out of survival, out of hyper independence, I don't know what it is, I have primed my brain to Literally expect nothing of anyone, ever. I have zero expectations of anyone, ever. And I try to appreciate everything. So I think if I ever, and this maybe doesn't make me a super good leader, this is a skill that I'm going to have to work on or find this balance, because obviously you enjoyed it, but it's hard for me to give somebody a role, give them deadlines, give them things to do, because I just think that people, Shouldn't do anything that doesn't light them up. So like for me, like hiring a team member, I like, my brain just goes like, well, what's work that lights you up because that's what you should be doing. and I think that can maybe one day bite me in the ass and that's something I'm gonna try to get a little bit better on. Interrupt you really quick though, Uhhuh because I think that's why like it worked. I think if you're in a position like, like you are Lisa. You have a team. I think that's why it's also important to realize where your where your strengths and your shortcomings are because your team should be the one to fill those shortcomings. And we did that rocket fuel book. And that was I forget the words initiator and visionary. Yep. But like, so I don't think you have to necessarily change your visionary actions, you just need to Find the right initiators to integrators. Yes. Integrators. You know what I mean? And I think that's where the right kind of fit comes in because yeah, I just, I don't know, maybe this is skilled. Maybe I need to take a course or I need to learn it, but I just, right now, the way my brain works, I can only see. Having somebody that works for me being like, what's working for you? What isn't working for you? And then it would almost be okay. If this doesn't light you up, then you're not the right person for this job. That's totally okay. Rather than let me teach you how to do this in this system. that just isn't the way I flow in the way that I work. So yeah, it does feel like it has really, really naturally and beautifully run its course. And I've already said it to you. I agree. You're also one of my best friends. Sorry to get all sappy, but I'm so so fucking grateful for the last three years and the opportunity that it's given us to get this close. The last few retreats that we've gotten to spend together, the Airbnb freaking weekends that we've had, like it really has been such a fucking fun, beautiful, wild ride. So I would love for you to share whatever you feel comfortable. What's your hope? What's your vision? What are you trying to, like, break through to the next level? Hmm. I really want to get to a place with a traveling hairstylist where this is becoming such a new, Resource that people all over really starting to like hear and hear the buzz about I really want to create more of a buzz This year across the country and real quick if you had to summarize What is the traveling hair stylist if someone's tuning in the very first time the traveling hair stylist is a service for a stylist To temporarily come into your salon space and cover you your space your clients While you were on any sort of extended vacation, just anything where you could be out, you know, 1, 2, 3, 4 months, whatever it could be, and we are servicing all of the country. So, you know, I was in California. I'm in North Carolina now. I've done work in Illinois, Arizona, you know, just, so this is something that can be workable for any stylist, mainly independent stylists. I have worked with a couple salons, but really, like, the independent stylists are the ones I think that. really need a resource like this because we don't have a lot of great health care options. We really, a lot of states don't even offer, short term disabilities of any sorts, especially if you're self employed. So yeah, so this is a resource to kind of help cover your clients, maintain your space, and even cover your rent during any sort of extended period of time. So yeah, so my goal now is, Really to create the buzz about it, but to really grow a team because I've been a one woman show this whole time And I do have one team member now who's getting ready to start a contract in a month, which is really exciting. Which is so cool! Yeah, but I want to continue to really grow on that. So continue to bring in, the contracts But really grow a team and I'd love to have, a few other team members by the end of the year So that's really my like main focuses right now. So Yeah, but so obviously information for that will be in the show notes. If you are somebody that's like, yeah, I could up and leave my clientele or I could use something new or my kid just graduated. It's time for me to have some freedom. Alicia chose to live in an RV for a long portion of it. Then these last few ones, they've been doing Airbnb stays. So she really knows like the ins and outs of all the different, she's been testing this out for two years. Like she really has probably not run into every situation, but a lot of different situations. She's gained a lot of wisdom. It's felt like a lot of obstacles, but now I do agree. So grateful for learning all of those that when you bring team members on, you know how to navigate all the different possibilities. So we will have that all linked in the show notes. I feel like we covered that pretty well. and then, yeah, I guess just one other thing. I also did a one on one coaching call with a girl that I did not even know. She wasn't in Soul Tribe. I had no idea who she was until this one on one coaching call. And we got on and long story short, she was torn. She's, she was in the white space stage. She was craving big magic. She doesn't know what it is. She's ready for something new. She knows she's a go getter. Her business is beautiful. She spent felt stagnant for a couple months. I'm like, girl, I know what that feels like. welcome to the club because that is where I live. And she, her salon owner really mentored her and she really felt like she loved her and owed a lot to her and she would almost like, she was almost like quietly begging her salon owner to partner with her. She had so much drive. She's like, we can make this bigger, we can make this better, And it, through that coaching call, I really was like, Partnering with her would be the worst thing you could ever do. You have a vision that she does not have right now. You need to cut that relationship at this beautiful, amazing point. Because I think so many people try to force something, and then they have a horrible falling out. And she was like, you know what, you're right. I think I just needed the permission to go for it. And it was so fun coaching her. If you're listening, hello. It was so enjoyable. And I mean, I was asking her questions. She has plenty of cash saved in the bank. She can cash flow, opening a salon. She literally just, the one thing that was in the way from making that leap was the conversation with the salon owner. She was mortified about how to tell her that she wants to open a salon locally that has a different vision, and then really just permission that she could do that. And so I just have felt like that's been in my sphere lately is this personal professional relationship navigation. I am. best friends with the girl who owns my salon, Riley. I might have her on a podcast episode soon. that would be really fun. But yeah, I just think that I come at it from an approach of just like, sometimes I'm honest to a fault. you never have to worry that there's things scheming back here that I'm not sharing out loud. Cause I would rather just be so overly transparent and share where my heart is and share where my mind is. and have conversations with love, know that you're not trying to hurt anyone, take away these like made up stories and limiting beliefs that you're like a crappy person or you're out to get someone or none of that is true. We're all just humans on a journey going back to you saying like, were you really going to work at that salon forever? No, like, you just have to, I don't know, there's like a maturing that comes with just realizing that people come in and out during seasons. It's not to say it'll never happen again, or it wasn't, you know, and the relationship can stay there. So, that was just kind of the thing I wanted to touch on was that one coaching call. Got so close, so tight, so madly obsessed in love with each other. And they were like, we're never switching tribes, never pull us away from each other, never. Things have shifted, things have moved, people have different goals, people have different desires. You guys are all going to grow and evolve, and this, what is formed now, will always be there, but you're going to need new relationships, new people, new ideas, new perspectives. You just have to be open to that flow, and be very transparent that you're open to that flow with the people around you, and I think that avoids a lot of weirdness. Yeah. 100%. And being honest about when you need that openness, too, I think is really key as well, because although, like, our working relationship might be coming to an end, like, You and I truly want the best for each other. I want Stylist Little Tribe to be literally amazing. and I know you want the same for Traveling Hair Stylist. we can continue to support each other in different ways, even beyond this. And I think that is really such a result of just how we've even approached this relationship from the beginning. And how we've ended it. Ending sounds like such a harsh word, but like, The professional side of it, absolutely, yeah. yeah, and I think the honesty is a huge piece of that. And not taking anything, personally, too, because I actually really loved how open we were the day after. Like, we were both talking about, like, okay, like, this is gonna do this for me, and this could do that for you, And there wasn't, like, I think sometimes, some people could maybe look at certain things and be like, oh, was that about me? Or was this actually, you know what I mean? And so, That's almost like a scarcity thinking, yeah. It's like you just have to focus on, like, the reason that you even came to this decision. And when you're both able to approach that with such openness and honesty, it really does, like, just create such, I think just a beautiful journey of it and where you can continue to find support in that just in a different way. So as per usual, the tradition with LNLs is we do the report that I found on TikTok over a year ago. Now at this point, I don't know if this could be the last LNL ever. That sounds a little traumatic. Maybe we'll end up doing one every year. They're definitely not gonna be doing them quarterly. we're gonna share report R is reading, E is eating. P is play. O is obsessed. R is recommending. And T is treat. I'll do mine first. reading, I am still reading. I've been reading it for a few weeks now. Be Ready When the Luck Happens by Ina Garden. She's the Barefoot Contessa from, Food Network. It's a memoir about her life and it's really good. I'm really enjoying it. I'm like three quarters of the way through it right now. there's like recipes in between some of the chapters. I've already made some of the things. There's like. Pictures of her life sprinkled in. It's a really beautiful, memoir. I'm really enjoying it. I am eating. I put protein. I'm trying to prioritize my protein thanks to Carissa. we have Carissa Warren who's doing like a creative initiative inside of Stylist Soul Tribe for habit tracking and she's really good at getting her protein. So I'm trying to be super on top of that in February. Anywhere from 90 to 120 grams is where I'm aiming for. I told ChatGPT that this morning and I asked it to. Help me with my meals today. play, I told Leisha this earlier, I am going to a water park with my family, my sister's family, in a few weeks. And my sister and I were on the phone yesterday just being stupid, like laughing about it coming. And she was like, Lisa, when was the last time we were on a water slide together? I'm so fucking excited to ride a water slide with my sister. Cause I was probably literally Bennett's age. Like, I can't tell you the last time we did that. So I'm very excited to just have a fun, sister weekend with both of our families for my son's birthday. I have been obsessed with, Ryan and I are still working out like it's nobody's business, I'm hitting PRs left and right, and I know, I'm like so proud of us, and my new vice has become the Alani energy drink pre workouts I got really hooked on sugar free Red Bull and I'm like, there's no way this is good for me. I know the Ilani probably isn't good for me either, but I did a little bit of research. What is the most least amount of harmful things when it comes to an energy drink and something to get me energized and give me a pump the, what is it called? Orange dream. It's like a dreamsicle flavor is so fucking good. The peach flavor is so good. I'm obsessed with them. I can't stop drinking them before a workout I am recommending the show Silo on apple tv ryan and I watched it was very good. I'm sad that it's over. I need a new show And my latest treat. This is silly. This is stupid all of a sudden ryan and I are ice cream in bed, people. Like, we, we, I don't, I don't know what happened, but we like got one flavor of ice cream. Churn is the brand that we're obsessed with right now. we've tried a bunch, but they have a lot of really good ones. Right this moment, I have caramel, salted caramel pretzel or caramel chocolate pretzel. So good. The s'mores one was meh. We have moose tracks right now also in the freezer. That's pretty good. We have done a lot of different flavors, but we will literally finish dinner, do our closing shift, bring a bowl of ice cream up to bed. So like, I'm not lying, there is still one sitting on my nightstand, which is kind of nasty behavior, but It's so good. It's, like, such a good treat. So we really need to get a Ninja Creamy and, like, health this, but right now it's just purely for pleasure and not anything other than that, Oh my gosh, I love. Yeah. So my report is, reading, I am currently reading, I feel like, a book that everybody is reading, which is The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins. I feel like there's been such a buzz around this book, but it is really good. I'm, I'm listening to it. You also have totally kicked off book club inside of Soul Tribe. I know. Loving that everybody's reading going so well. We have a lot of people, reading it right now on Soul Tribe and I'm, I know some people are reading the book. I've been listening to the audiobook and it's really great because it is Mel Robbins telling the audiobook and it just, it literally sounds like you're like at a coffee shop talking to her. Like, it's a very natural sounding audiobook. Okay, I'm gonna interrupt. Have you ever thought this and has anybody said this? Mel, Melanie Sowell reminded me so much. Literally, they look the same. Their glasses, like they're the same person to me. I know. I seriously think that all the time. Okay. I haven't told her that, though, but I almost said that the other day on Polo. I was like, do you know that you kind of, like, are Mel? You are. In every way. The glasses, the blonde hair, the wisdom. Yeah. Melanie needs to come on the podcast. She's the best. Keep going. Yeah. and then I just Finished eating the last of some, treats that I got when I was back in California a few weeks ago because they got me some specialty chocolates that are made in Berkeley and it's called TCHO but these flavors are really good. Like one of my favorite ones was a Dark Duo one. And it's a dark chocolate, fudgy but fruity kind of taste flavor. Like berry? I think it was berry, like a berry fruit, like very undertone of it. and then I liked the dark and salty one too, but they also have like a matcha flavor and like toffee flavor, like there's all kinds of really good like combinations. That's a good GIF. I feel like that's a very good GIF. So that's TCHO is the brand. For play, my husband and I just started, we don't do this often, but when we do it's actually a really nice quality time. But we just started a puzzle and it's just one of those like nice winter things where it's, you know, can take a few days to do. It's just like a big world map or something we're doing right now. and it's just nice because we just get a cup of coffee and do puzzles and just talk and I love a good puzzle. Yeah, it's been a nice little playtime. my sister in law got me a grateful or gratitude journal and it's one where it has like morning prompts, evening prompts, you fill it out every day. I've really, I've been actually doing it every single morning and evening, which I don't have the best routines of like being consistent with, so I'm really proud of myself that I'm still doing that and it's just been a nice little like treat in the mornings too, honestly, to like take a few extra minutes and do that. Recommending, it's funny you have a show, because I also have a show, because we just finished up Squid Games, and the second season was wild. Ryan watched Squid Games. I would be in the room, but I didn't, like, pay attention and get hooked in, but obviously that has had its moment. Good, I know. We are, like, really into it. So, yeah, that's my recommendation. For, the last T, I have a chat GPT prompt, I treated myself to a little, like, cool chat GPT, chat, oh my god, chat GPT, exercise, and maybe you've seen it, but it was actually so lovely, reading this, like, little story it gave me. And the prompt is if you type into chat GPT and you ask chat GPT to tell me a story of a day in the life as my future self based on this description. And so you write a bunch of stuff that you kind of want your hopes, your dreams, your goals, where you see, and it just tells you this really beautiful story. And then you also can then make it, have, you know, give you a daily schedule to match this. story, like this day itself. And so it was just like a really kind of nice little, little treat into the peak of my future. Alicia shared it with me and it was really beautiful. It was very like personal and sentimental and hearing like her dream life like Realized and hearing it all out. And then you said the second prompt was like, tell me like, how to be spending my time to, right? Like, how did you word that second prompt? It was like, create a daily schedule that fits into creating this, Yeah. So it was just nice. They gave like a really broke down schedule and what some things to focus on and yeah. I think we've all been using ChatGPT as a therapist lately. I know Kimber posted on her story and she calls her ChatGPT Chuck, which is much easier to say, so maybe I'll adopt that. But it was like, Pumping her up like you just be patient with yourself. You're going through transition. You're building something blah blah blah And I was like, I need my chat GPT to talk to me like yours does and she's like go deep And so I have recently it felt weird at first Started talking to it a little bit more like a therapist and man It's the best hyper girl that you can ever get like it's so nice. It makes you feel so good It's a little bit worrisome. Are we all gonna become reliant? Are they gonna like, you know Make our, I don't know, mind control or something. Who knows? But, I've definitely been also getting a little bit, sentimental and, and close with my Chuck as well. So, love it. Amazing. That's my report. Love it. That was a great L and L. I love you, Leisha. Thank you for doing this with me. Um, yeah. Thank you, everybody, for listening. I'll have everything we talked about linked in the show notes. and I will talk to you all next week. Bye.