Stylist Soul Tribe Conversations
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Stylist Soul Tribe Conversations
035 - Transforming Pain into Purpose: Samantha Harman's Journey of Growth, Overcoming Divorce, and Empowering Beauty Professionals
- Samantha's background and journey into the beauty industry.
- How her social media presence became a pivotal part of her career.
- The challenges she faced during her divorce and how it influenced her professional life.
- The importance of being honest and transparent with your audience.
- Samantha's passion for teaching social media skills and mindset strategies.
- Her future goals of helping others heal and grow personally and professionally.
- Practical advice on overcoming fears and building a brand.
- Follow Samantha Harmon on Instagram: @samanthabeautyconfessions
- Samantha's Website: https://www.samanthasbeautyconfessions.com/
- Check out Samantha's Podcast: Samantha Beauty Confessions
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Hi, friends. Welcome back to Stylist Soul Tribe Conversations. I'm your host, Lisa Hough, and I am joined today by Samantha Harmon, also known as Samantha Beauty Confessions on Instagram. Hi, Sam. Thank you so much for coming on today. How are you? Hi. Thank you for having me. I am good. I'm excited to, to be able to chat with you today. Me too. We've been, we've been talking about this for a while. A few weeks ago, we recorded an episode for Sam's podcast, so you guys will have to go and give that a listen as well, but I wanted to flip the script and hear more about her as well. We talked about this on her episode, but I feel like I have known it. of Samantha for many years now. I started following you on Instagram like way back in the day. We'd always kind of like DM each other a little bit, cheer each other on but we never got to know each other super well. And when she had me on her podcast, she got to know my story a little bit better. But today I want to hear all about you and your story. You you and all of the things. So I know you just got back from premiere Orlando. How was that? I know I messaged you. I was like, we still on for tomorrow. You're like, Oh my God, my life's been so busy, but yes, we are absolutely still on. How did the show go? It was great. I don't, I don't know if you've ever been to that one, but it's so big. And so yeah, my brain, I feel like it takes a couple of days to recover from all those emotions and the energy and all of that, but the show, it was amazing. And I always liked that one because again, there's. There's so many people there. And the energy in the room is just kind of crazy. Like in the best way. Yeah. So when did you get back from that? So we actually got back on Monday, I guess, Tuesday, we got back Monday at 3. Okay. Well, our flight got delayed. We had some delays. I know. And so now I'm like in the future, I think I'm going to fly out the next day at shows instead of trying to do the evening. Cause I feel like when I do the evening, it always, yeah. That makes it's too much. It's like way too much for me. So what were you teaching there? What was like your class about? So I taught social media and I taught kind of like just a basic class on it. And then I also taught a more in depth like video editing class and talk to everyone about how to get out of their own way when it comes to putting yourself out there online, which is, I feel like much needed in the industry. Love. So I'm sure we will get into that. So why don't we go back? You got to hear all about me and my story. Why don't you go back to what feels appropriate and kind of share your story. What has made you who you are? And I'm sure I'll interrupt a thousand times and we'll go in a few different directions, but why don't you take it away, wherever it feels appropriate to start from. Okay. Yeah. So I, my, both of my parents are in the industry, and My mom did hair for I think like 18 years and now she owns cosmetology school and my dad, he owns a, like a salon centric franchise. Are they still married or no? No, no, they're not still married. So growing up, I kind of saw my mom be a hairstylist. My dad had the business and then my mom had the school. I kind of saw all areas of the industry very amazing. So I, so I was like, I'm not doing that. No chance. Okay. So I went to college. Okay. Then, after spending a lot of time and money there, I was like, actually, I think my mom was on to something. I think I'm going to go to her cosmetology school. Wow. When I did, I, I just knew immediately that that's what. What did you go to traditional college for and how long was that? For public relations and marketing. So I mean, kind of, it's the same, like it's helped me a lot, I will say. But I did not graduate. I have like 12, 12 hours left. Okay, but you knew you were like, this is not for me. I don't need to waste any more time. Well, so the way college, at least for me, I didn't ask questions back then. I didn't understand all of that, but how my, How my situation worked was the classes I had left while there weren't many, they all required you to, they, they needed to be taken in order. They were prerequisites of each other. And so it was going to be a year and a half, no matter which way I looked at it for a semester's worth of hours. So I was like, you know, I'm just going to trust my gut on this one and, and go for it. Those hours will always be there if I ever needed to go back, but I've never regretted it. Wow. And so then you went to your mom's cosmetology school. What was that experience like? It was like people, I think a lot of times people are like, Oh, that was probably easy. It probably came natural for you. Hair did not come natural for me. I think because my mom did do hair. So when I was younger, she would always you know, if we were in a rush, she would fix my hair. Okay, that is so real though because my mom knew nothing how she, she would like surface brush my naturally wavy curly hair and just chop bangs and short. And so I swear I got good at doing hair because I was like forced to. My daughter has, she's 11. She has no idea how to do anything with her hair, but that's because anytime there's like a dress up event, she's like, Let me curl it. It's going to look amazing. She's going to get all these compliments, but she never experiments with it herself. Cause I'm so controlling and I just take over. And I think that all the time, I'm like, I really need to just like, let her do her thing with that. But anytime it's like a special event, I just do her hair for her. So that's. Well, and it's, it's, it's faster and easier. And I'll tell my mom that you said that actually, I'm going to see her later today. She'll be glad to hear that. Cause I think sometimes she's like, did I do you a disservice? But I didn't learn how to curl my own hair until I left her house in high school, because I never had to literally get a perf. professionally curled at any moment. Why waste time? Why burn yourself? Why that's very true. So I was literally just thinking that the other day when like a TikTok video came up with one of those straightening brushes. I was like, oh, I should get Skylar that. Like she literally doesn't do anything to her hair because it's either just like messy and we let it go or I style it. Yep. Full blown style. That's so funny. No, I love that. So it didn't come natural to you. Did you enjoy, you know, cosmetology school? I did. My mom tried to be out of it as much as possible. At that time, she had two campuses. Now she's, you know, she's getting closer to retirement, so she's condensed back down to one. But she tried to stay at the campus that I wasn't at for the simple fact of, like, you know, she didn't want, you know, There to be like favoritism or any questions about that. And also I got super nervous around her. Because I knew she was watching me more intently. And so she tried to kind of stay out of it as much as possible. But yeah, overall, I mean, school is school. It's just, it's just to get you to the next step. So yeah, there were some ups and downs, but overall it was a great experience. That's amazing. And then what was your journey after cosmetology school? So afterwards I started working in, in the salon immediately. I didn't do like assisting and things. I'm from a small town and you know, that's not really normal here, right? Even still, which is crazy. But so I built my business kind of quickly, I think because of just word of mouth and I was in my hometown. I think that helps a lot. And then after I'd been doing hair for about two years, Two and a half. I went back to school. Mm-Hmm. and got my instructor's license. Okay. And that's how I kind of got into education. Now when I first graduated from the school, the second time I taught at my mom's school part-time. Like Wow. Two days a week. Wow. And then I, that's when I started my Instagram was about 2018 ish. Amazing. What year did you graduate cosmetology school? I graduated cosmetology school I think in 2014. Okay. And the instructor school in 2017. Okay, amazing. And then, I know you shared, I was, you know, talking with Samantha, like I said, when I was on her podcast, you, in the, since 2018 to today, have had quite you know, A lot happened. Your life has changed a lot. It's been public. So you want to start kind of opening up and sharing about that. Yeah. So I, I started my page and probably a year later, my entire life flipped upside down, which I always say it's a God thing. A universe thing, whatever you want to call it, that, that all of this happened because I went through a really crazy divorce. And. It was at the time that my page was growing and I was getting opportunities, and I just can't help but think that that has to be the universe or God's way of showing me, like, it's okay, everything's gonna be alright. Because I think Like the shutting of one thing into the birth of something new, yeah. Yeah, because it was, it was like my light at the end of the, the very dark tunnel I felt like I was in, and it, it quite literally was the thing that got me out of bed every day. And so I think that's led me to teaching these social media courses because I realize the, The impact it had on my life. And I know that I'm not the only person that struggled with, you know, mental health and, you know, fears and divorce and all the things. And I just, I think that the platform I've been able to build, I think I can do a lot more with it than just hair techniques. You know, how long were you married? So we were married, like, I think three, like right at three years, we dated two years beforehand. So about five years total. Yeah. And what was the kind of like Cause of that if you feel good going into that. I know you said that was a big part of your story. Yeah, no. So I, to tell you the honest truth, I don't fully know exactly what happened. I know that he had some kind of reaction to something, whether it was a drug or life or, you know, It was, it seemed like a, like a psychotic break. That is what they told me. It was I don't know if it was chemically induced or just stress induced, but my ex husband ended up having to be. He was hospitalized for about a week in ICU so they could detox him and kind of, you know, figure out struggle with drugs? I didn't know that but come to find out, come to find out he was doing something behind my back. Now it, it's, it's not clear because after ICU, he went to a, what's it called? A behavioral unit, like a, to be monitored. And while he was in there. you know, his drug tests, like the urine drug tests were coming back as you know, his, his prescription medication that he was taking and nothing else. So I don't know if he was abusing that or what was going on, but I didn't do like a hair follicle or anything like that at the time, because that just, there was too much emotion going on for me to make those decisions. But yeah, so I didn't know he struggled with drugs until one day I came home from work and My neighbors and him were outside of my house and I was just like, Wait, what's going on? Like, something wasn't right, and I quickly figured out that it was just going to go downhill from there. Wow. What, like, how much time would you say was between, like, like, were things good before then? Because it almost just feels like it was, like, an overnight thing, or was it not, I mean, good three years in? Well, hindsight's 20 20, and so I, now I see a lot of things. In the moment, it felt very all of a sudden. Mm hmm. But looking back, I think that, you know, me having that Instagram page and trying really hard to build that and I was posting constantly and I think I just ignored a lot of things. I'm so focused on that. And maybe because other things were rough, maybe not, you know, but there was definitely happening simultaneously. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I mean, still today, like when you said what ended up happening, like, I really don't know because the, even the behavioral unit that he was put in, They really don't know either. He, he didn't open up about much. And like I said, he didn't like snap out of that. Is he living a normal life now or no? Yeah. Wow. That's fascinating. I don't remember how much I shared on your podcast or not. When I first started dating my husband, he was addicted to heroin for years. And that was like a big part of our story. And then I also, my mother has mental health health issues. Issues and she's had like psychosis episodes. Like I totally hear you're saying I like want to dig in deeper to that, but I don't know if that's a good use of this time, but that's fascinating. Unfortunate. And then was the, was the divorce like long and drawn out? Or were you just like, okay, I gotta be done with this. And you guys just parted ways. It was very fast. I'm somebody who needs, needs. Answers, I guess. I don't, I don't like to make decisions like a divorce a life changing decision without answers, but when he wouldn't open up and give them to me, I just, I felt like, like I couldn't, I couldn't live the rest of my life not knowing what happened, married to him. So now I live the rest of my life not knowing what happened, but at least I'm not in that still. You're not participating in that anymore. Yeah. But the divorce was quick. I honestly, I have no ill like wishes toward him. I think he's doing great. And I think that whatever did happen, like it was for a reason. And I, you know, he still lives where I live and I run into him from time to time. And it's, it's really weird getting a divorce with no children. Because we quite literally act like we don't know who each other are. Yeah, and you don't ever have to talk to each other ever again. Now, okay, I'm really sorry if this is too deep, but this is No, it's not. You're fine. Okay, were you, like, madly in love with him when you guys got married? Or, like, cause it's just, It feels kind of cold. I'm like to go from that to that, the way you just kind of say it, so matter of factly. I am trying to understand. Well, okay. So it's been five years, so I I've had time in therapy. Yeah. But no, to answer your question, no I was not. Okay. I didn't know that. Again, hindsight's 2020 mm-Hmm. I thought I was, I also have a lot of unhealed issues with my dad. I don't speak to my dad, so I think that I saw. That my ex husband was not like my dad, at least on the outside. Looking back now, the, the lying and the betrayal, he, he is a lot like my dad, but I didn't see that then. And so I think this will do the trick. This is like, he won't hurt me. He won't, he won't cheat on me. He won't do all the things that I don't want people to do. I thought, so I was like, this will work. I was 26 years old. I thought it was just the next step, you know, Yeah. But no, I mean, it sounds crazy to say, but I've, I've since really worked on that too. And myself and like, you know, trusting my gut and not just doing things because I think I have to and, and no, I was not madly in love with him. Yeah. Maybe at a time I was, but we grew so much apart, you know? Well, it isn't an interesting, I don't know where I've heard this before, but I know I've heard this concept before that, like you think back even to like childhood, you know, like first love and things like that. And. You, you love or you do whatever to the capacity that you can, and it sounds like your capacity has grown so much that you realize that was just a small portion. You're now, you know, so much more capable and have so much more capacity that it doesn't feel as impactful as it probably did back then. Yeah, but, but really when I think back on it, I knew at the hospital, once they told me like What they thought was going on, like I knew in my heart that he wasn't going to do what it took to reassure me to the point that I needed to be reassured, you know, and not that that issue was anything about me, but it's like in a marriage, you have to make each other feel comfortable and safe and secure. And I knew immediately. I'm not kidding. Like, I actually looked at my mom and stepdad. Right after the doctor walked out of the room and I said, I'm going to get a divorce. So I knew immediately I was going to be my next question is, did you have like a strong support system in that moment in time? Because that isn't an easy decision to make. Yeah, I did. And you know, my heart goes out to people with children and people who, who deal with like, You know, infidelity and things like that, because I think that although I knew and I was so sure, like I stayed at my mom's house for probably two weeks, three weeks on a blow up mattress, just like a shell of myself. But yes, I had that support system. And then after about the two, three week mark, my mom, which is. At the time this, this sucked, but my mom was like, okay, you got to go home, you know, like you can't run from it forever. You got to lay in the bed you made. And I was like, mom, like, do you not love me? But she's like, no, I do love you. And that's why I'm sending you home. So I had a great support system. And again, I've since done therapy and I think just. Once he left, it was like, like Lisa, my body was broken out in hives for probably six months leading up to that. It's like I knew, but I didn't know, you know, like your body knew, but your mind wasn't there yet. Like it was protecting you too much to be there fully. Wow. Yep. Yeah. Okay. And now I know you've said, like, your page was growing. I don't know if you guys know, I was just looking at Sam's Instagram before we got on. She's at, like, 308, 000 followers at this point. So, like, she has this very significant, this is her full, full time gig. So when you say your page was growing, and I remember we were talking before and I was asking you about your story, you said it felt like it was happening very publicly. And while I followed you in passing, I haven't followed you super closely. I wasn't aware of that. So while I, of course, from your perspective, it felt very public. I'm sure people who followed you very closely were aware of that. But how does the, how do those worlds kind of mesh? And how was that, like, while that was growing and feeling public? I just, I don't think. Again, looking back, I don't think I handled it in the way that I should have, that a therapist would tell me I should have. Okay. So what did you do and what should you have done in your, you know, opinion now? So what I did is I used all of my pain and my hurt and my confusion and my anger and all of the emotions. And I put that 10 times into my page. I mean, I, I just like ran with it. And so when my page grew, like, that's why it grew. When I say this in my classes, like when you give 1 million percent of yourself to something. It's gonna grow. You just channeled everything into that. Yeah. Yes. Like if I was sad, I'd pick up my phone about anything and I would just like and comment. Were you transparent that you were sad or you were just doing like you were going through the motions? Like it was almost like robot at that point. Like you were just doing what you knew needed to be done or robot sharing. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Robot. So that is not what I recommend for anyone listening. What I should have done is. Is gotten on and been honest with my, my community that I had built and told them what I was doing. I mean, I was going to like, like events with, with brands and stuff and just walking around, like, non existent, but my body was there. And do you look back on those like photos and be like, wow, like that doesn't even feel real. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. And, and I don't know if, because again, it was all at the beginning. So I don't know if those people then thought that was weird, but now that they know me now, I know that they're like, who were you then? You know what I should have done is, is been honest and open and just maybe turn down those trips and just healed. Because my divorce really, it hit me about a year and a half, two years later, all the emotions. So I think a therapist would have said in the beginning to, to feel and not numb out. Tell me about that experience, like when it started hitting you, what was that like? So I got to a point where I needed to put my face on my page and I needed to, I guess I didn't need to, but that was the next step. You were feeling comfortable. I wanted. Yeah. I felt called and I wanted to share my story, but I couldn't get over that mental hump of getting out there. And so I think that whenever I was sitting in it and trying to dig deep and feel as to why this was going on, I think that's when it all surfaced of like, okay, I'm You know, I, I didn't heal the stuff with my dad. I got married to somebody that I wasn't fully in love with and got hurt in that process. The two most important men in my life have really hurt me. And so I thought to myself, no wonder I have these fears and doubts and insecurities of other people hurting me again out there. So what I did is I I, I started journaling and, and writing down like what the worst case scenario could be. And I, I started like working more one on one with people to try to help me get over that. And eventually I shared the story. And when I shared my story on, I put it on my YouTube, it was like a 20 minute video. It was like an elephant was taken off of me. It was like everything I'd ever held onto. Was gone, which is very weird if you've never been through it. Yeah. But something about instant relief, like there wasn't fear after you posted. It was just a hundred percent. That's what I was supposed to do There was fear before not after it was like, oh my god But before I was like laying in my extra bedroom like crying like I can't do this. I can't do this Oh, and then I posted it and it was just like oh my god, because it didn't own me anymore. I had portrayed for so long online that I, I lived this, you know, perfect life, this happy life. And I didn't, I wasn't at a place mentally where I was ready to admit that, you know, until a few, a few years later. What were people's response, like when you opened up that way, especially since you really weren't vulnerable before then, how did people react to that? I got so many messages about, you know, thank you so much for sharing this. Like I feel the exact same way. Like, you know, I never knew that about you, just all kinds of, of positive reassurance and really zero negative. Wow. And so that obviously felt really good. And then I know you were saying when we talked a few weeks ago that like, You love the content you're making, things like that, but you're really feeling pulled to kind of go, like, it sounds like a deeper direction. Like, it sounds like, and I've felt the same way too. You open up, you get vulnerable, you get the taste of that, and it's like, okay, yeah, this feels good. This feels purpose driven. Like, I'm gonna keep going with that. So, like, where do you kind of stand with that right now? Yeah. So I would love to, to work more one on one with people about, you know, that are struggling with whether it's a family member or a spouse or whatever that has warped their minds. I think that, you know, narcissism and manipulation and just belittling people to the point that they start believing those things. I think it's, I know it's a real thing. I know it happens to so many people. And I think that, You know, I don't want to be known for a person who grew a large following because they posted hair tutorials. I, I want to be known as someone who helps other people heal their wounds that they have. Yeah. I think that's really amazing and really special. So, these classes that you're doing at, like, Premier and other things like that, when, like, what are you teaching when it comes to social media right now? Give us, like, the cliff notes. Obviously, you can't teach us the whole class, but, like, what is it, if people are listening to this, they want to follow you, they want to keep doing that, like, what is kind of your jam when it comes to the social media stuff? So, I, I have really did teach more basic level classes, but I also have a class that there's a couple of locations left this year where I talk a lot more about the mindset behind social media and how to get out of your own way. I talk about a lot of marketing and how to post to different, you know, buyers and, you know, sell in different ways without feeling like a, a used car salesman, so to speak. And I talk about the Just the actionable steps to take to get over that fear that, that I know all too well. And I actually have an activity that I did at premiere where I had people pull their phones out and record videos of themselves. And just seeing that, like you said, it, it's, it's, it's, That's what happy what makes me happy. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like you're on your flight home after that. Like that was next level. Like I impacted someone in a different way than just teaching a color class at that moment. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that I see the benefit of making people not making but encouraging people to and walking them through. doing it, taking action right then, because a lot of times, like, especially people that battle fear and stuff, like, you can talk to them all day, but when they go home and they're by themselves, are they gonna, are they gonna do it? So, like, let's just step outside your comfort zone right now. You're all rared up, like, now's the time to do it. So, if you were to tell someone who's listening to this, where they're like, ooh, yes, I'm excited. I love this one actual tangible piece of advice from today's podcast. Like what would you share? Sorry, I know that's a loaded question right on the spot, but I'm, I'm curious. No, so I think that journaling is super powerful. I think that Like, yes, therapy is also great, but I know some people may not be able to afford therapy or whatever. I think that just getting your thoughts out on paper, typing them on a computer, speaking them into your, your voice memos and checking in with yourself every day or every other day, I think that you will start to see where that fear is coming from or that doubt or whatever. And then you can start figuring out steps to, to step outside of that because fear Like someone explained it to me that we think of fear of public speaking of putting ourselves out there in the same way that we think of falling off of a cliff, like our brain is trying to keep us stuck. You're going to die. Yeah. Yep. And used to the toxicity. If it's a marriage or, you know, the negativity in a salon or whatever it is, we, we want to stay safe because that's what we know. Yeah. And our brain keeps trying to convince us that that fear is going to, we're literally going to die. But I promise if you just take time to sit quietly and figure out like the deeper root cause of everything. I love that, and I think, I think people go seeking that out so much, and I think, and I would love to hear more information, too, so I'll get into that question, but I think we don't realize how much knowing is actually inside of us if we can just quiet the noise around us and actually, like, Go there. And journaling is a practice of that, like, uncovering enough of the ick around everything to get deeper. Like, everyone's always looking for a solution, and I think what you're saying is, like, you can figure out your fear. You can get in there. I know you shared with me that, after the divorce, all that, you hired a one on one coach. And it made a really big impact on your life. But you were like, Lisa, it really, he didn't even ask me anything that crazy. It just, he made me think about these few things. And that was like, all you needed, or almost like gave you the permission. So what were those few things that were like, Changed everything for you, because I wonder if that will land. So even if somebody's like, okay, journaling, they open up a piece of paper. Now what? Like, what is that next level of like, what are we unpacking when we're doing that? Well, I think what he did for me is he asked a lot of why questions. So if, like when you said, tell me about your journey, like he, you know, you could have stopped me and said, why did you do that? Why do you think you did that? And then I would start thinking like, well, I don't know. Why did I do that? I think that, There's actually an activity. I don't know if it's seven wise or five wise. Yeah, I think that's like Simon Sinek's find your why I know what you're talking about. Yeah. And once you get to either the fifth or the seventh, whichever one it is like that's your true answer because what our brains try to do again is keep us safe. The one through four wise could be like the safeguarded version. But once you get to the, so far down, you run out of excuses or things that you've convinced your brain of. And so I think that that is what, what I mean when I say that journaling will expose so much of what. You already know, you just don't realize you know it yet. Mm hmm. Yeah. And so whatever it is on your head that's getting in your way or whatever doubts you have, whatever your fear, asking yourself why, you'll have an excuse. Here's why. Okay, why? Deeper than that, deeper than that. So like, what's an example of one of those for you? Was it the divorce? Was it starting your Instagram page? Like what's an example of those why's that you guys kind of ran through? No, we, so we didn't run through Any of my stuff like that, we actually working in that capacity is what made me realize how deep the wounds were with my dad up until that point. Like I made the decision to not talk to my dad. I didn't think in my brain that I had those betrayal wounds with him, but I did. I just had never been asked questions about why I don't talk to my dad and how that was all handled. So really that's what, what that opened up for me. And I think that just, you know, when you grow up with somebody who, who plants these fears in your brain from literally age zero, that is a parent that you're supposed to be able to trust, you know, and I'm not trying to talk negatively about my dad. I think that, I think that he. Could also benefit from journaling. And I think everyone could, I think parents do the best they can. So I'm not bashing him. Yep. Yep. But I also know what it did to me and I have half siblings. Maybe he doesn't do that to them. Maybe I'm just very sensitive, but what I know is it hurt me. And that stayed with you. Yeah. Yes. And, and so once you hear those things, whether they were meant that way or not, you believe them. And I fully believed every single thing that I had to the point that I couldn't post my face online. I mean, I couldn't do it. So when you're doing coaching with people, and I know this is kind of a newer journey that you're taking, but is that kind of what you're trying to do is hold the space of like, there's clearly a big block in the way. You could take so many classes about how to put together a reel, about how to do whatever, but like, if there's actually that massive block there, let's dig in and unpack that together. Like, if people are having trouble getting there, is that Kind of the intention or yeah, definitely. And growing up, I was always told that I was you can't ask that question, Samantha, don't ask people that that's too, that's too deep. But you know, I think that, I think that that's my uniqueness, my special sauce or whatever you want to call it is that I don't think questions are too deep. And I think that if someone feels uncomfortable, they can tell me, but yeah, I, I want to work with people that are ready to heal. I want to work. What you just said there is so meaningful because how many of us actually would like to be asked deep questions? Like, truthfully, I think most people actually want someone to ask the deep questions, and we all stay so surface level that you feel so seen and validated when people finally do ask. Obviously, there's right context and, you know, but in a coaching environment, absolutely. For sure, yeah, because I mean, when you're talking more surface level, the person who's struggling is like, well, my gosh, like. Everything I'm going through, I'm the only one dealing with it clearly, but, but you're not. And, and I'm someone that believes that, you know, things that come up in us didn't just happen a week ago. They go back to our grandparents and our great grandparents. I mean, it's generational things. And so maybe I should have been a therapist, but I think that now I'm ready to channel my curiosity and my, my ability to, to listen and to understand people. And I'm ready to take that and. You know, coach and, and take it to the next level for sure. Yeah. And I think you're absolutely doing that. I remember when we recorded your podcast, you were like, I'm just curious. So you start telling your story. I'm going to ask you a million questions. I loved that format. I thought that was so much fun. So I'll definitely also Lee link Samantha's podcast in the show notes as well. So everyone can give it, give a listen to that. Cause you're definitely doing that right now. And I think it's incredible and I'm grateful that we had the opportunity to Dive in and, and chat about all these things. Is there anything else you feel called to like share or anything else you want to dive into today? No, again, like you said, it's, it's also new, so I don't have like offers yet, but I'm working on them right now. I do have classes coming up. I can send you the link to those as well. And then yeah, if anybody. Wants to chat more or wants to be informed of when this stuff drops, then they can go to my website and get on the email list or send me a DM. I'm always, I'm always on social media. I am trying to not be so much on it today as I used to be because there's so much life out there too, but, but I do check them and it is me on there. It's nobody else running it. So definitely reach out. I love that. And while I know you're working behind the scenes and kind of putting these offers together just from somebody who's been doing quite a bit of offers for a while now, I'm going to tell you, I think that just actual real conversations with real people are how to build the best offers, like, rather than, because we can spend so much time behind the scenes putting together this perfect thing to launch to the world, but I think exactly what you just said right there, like, if anybody really resonates with this, She's a human reach out to her. And sometimes those conversations are what actually then becomes a format and a structure later. So I love that. I think that's amazing. So yeah, you can definitely give me all the information you want me to share with everyone. And I can do that. And I'm really grateful. I know that I said this when we talked a few weeks ago, but I feel like I've Again, like I said, I kind of have known you for a little bit. I'm so glad we're like on more real life kind of terms like this. And, and we get to know each other, you know, better like we have over these last couple of podcast episodes. And I'm sure this will maybe be the first of many, and we can continue this conversation as you continue to roll these things out. But from one fan or follower, you know, I will just say, I have so enjoyed. You've give so much to the industry. I've enjoyed consuming your content for so long. I still enjoy it. I love the way you show up on stories. I love the way you share your life. I'm so inspired by you. So I just appreciate you coming on. Well, thank you. I love talking to you too. And yeah, I think it's the first of many, many things maybe in the future. So everyone stay tuned for that. Yep. I love that idea. Okay. Thank you friends for listening. I will talk to you all next week. Like I said, everything that we talked about today, I'll make sure I have it linked down below. So thanks again.